Angela Giampolo, an attorney and LGBT activist, stirred up some controversy with a recent op-ed asking whether hate crime laws — which add more punishment based on the victim’s race, disability, or sexual orientation — really deter violence. I asked her to talk it over with me today, and we delved into several questions:

  • Is there evidence hate crime legislation works?
  • Who are these laws used against?
  • Does the increased incarceration deter others from committing similar crimes?

Listen to our conversation here.