Two weeks ago, I met anthropologist Natalia Reagan at The Amazing Meeting, where she kicked things off in grand style with a talk about people who hunt Bigfoot without understanding the origins of the hoax — or knowing anything about apes and primates. She was so good onstage that I approached her afterwards and invited her to come on my radio show soon.

When the Cecil The Lion story broke yesterday, the time was right, so here’s our conversation about dentist Walter Palmer’s bow-hunting trophy kill of Cecil. I asked Natalia why the story had gotten so much attention, what the punishment could be for Palmer and his Zimbawean poacher/guides, and what will happen to Cecil’s pride now that he’s not around to protect them. She also brought up the story of Gedau, a rescued orangutan, who succumbed to injuries from a vicious attack on a Borneo planataion.

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