Here’s my conversation with Katie Sanders, deputy editor of Politifact, one of the best fact-checking websites, which has reviewed various statements and pronouncements by politicians in 2015 to determine which qualifies as Lie Of The Year.

This year, however, that singular label was expanded to encompass a series of untruths by one particular presidential candidate — Donald Trump. Sanders explained which of his lies were most egregious and thus categorized as “Pants On Fire.” We also talked about the difficulty of being a fact-checker in the current environment, whether anyone on the Democrat side said anything remotely close to Trump’s whoppers, and how quotes from his own book go a long way in explaining his attitude about the truth.

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