Last week, in an interview with The Daily Beast, Director Of National Intelligence James Clapper admitted that, from the beginning, the NSA should have disclosed some details about how it has been collecting telephone records for millions of Americans for years. He insinuated that public reaction would have been a lot more positive than it has been since Edward Snowden revealed the programs being used to track us without our knowledge.

On my America Weekend show, I turned to Patrick Toomey of the ACLU’s National Security Project for reaction to Clapper’s comments. We also talked about Clapper lying to Congress when he testified that the NSA was not spying on Americans’ phone records, and what his recent admission says about Edward Snowden as a whistleblower.

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