In the years since the Darren Wilson/Michael Brown story in Ferguson, there’s been a lot of talk about police department reform, both here in St. Louis and across the country. Documentarian Peter Nicks spent two years embedded with the Oakland, California, police department, as it tried to reform itself after years of high crime rates and scandals.

The finished product is called “The Force,” which aired last night on PBS as part of the Independent Lens series and is now streaming online. Here’s my conversation with Nicks about it.

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